Magic + Business: My interview on the Daydreaming Wolves podcast


Have you ever been told that it’s hard making friends as an adult?

I have. It’s a story I think we’ve all heard as we get older. It’s written about in magazine articles and spoken about on radio programs.

(If limiting beliefs like this are getting in your way, there’s a workshop I’m co-hosting soon that you might be interested in. Scroll down to learn more.)

Well, I call bullshit.

I’ve found that the more I walk through the world with an open mind and an open heart, the more new friends just walk right in.

And I’m not only talking about the friendships made online through platforms like Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. (Though, those are all useful ways to stay connected with new friends when they don’t live nearby.)

I’m talking about the sparks that fly when you meet another person in real life and you just know you’re going to get along famously.

Last September, at my first Breathwork healer training, I met a person who became a fast and dear friend: Yarrow Magdalena.

Yarrow is a web designer by day, and a plant lover, neurodivergent hermit/introvert, writer, aspiring herbalist, tarot reader, and queer self-care champion by night. They live in a tiny house in the woods of Europe with their dog and they are a personal inspiration for my own work to help dismantle systems of oppression with healing work. You can learn more about them here.

They also have a wonderful podcast where they talk about my favorite topics: magic and business. So obviously I was thrilled when they asked if I’d like to be interviewed for an episode!

A few of the things we discussed:

  • My own story with chronic illness and how it introduced me to herbalism, acupuncture, breathwork and the tarot
  • Feeling healthy both in our bodies and our businesses and how that’s deeply related
  • How we can learn from plants
  • Our favorite ways to stay connected to nature in winter
  • Why we think it’s important to ask plants for permission before making medicine with them
  • Ways we are trying to make our work accessible while still honoring our own time and energy
  • Why we love tarot as a tool to express what sometimes can’t be said

This was a really fun one to record and has such a wide variety of topics covered. I hope you enjoy it!

You can listen to it on iTunes here or on Soundcloud by clicking the play button below.